I am having a hard time with the fact that someone is having a hard time with the word please being used. I dont feel comfortable using it as a full sentence because it sounds a little stilted to me, but I dont mind when other people use it. You need to say, at the end of the sentence, what it is you want both of you do. Yes the way it grates on me is when I get a message that says please advise, I take time to actually give a suggestion or remedy, and then either hear nothing or find out that they did whatever they wanted anyway without actually listening to my advice. If using Please advise gets you that upset to spend paragraphs complaining about it, it sounds like you need a serious vacation. There's no difference in meaning, but the former is a bit formal and the latter is more common and informal in everyday speech. I agree that benefit of the doubt is important when reading emails just because tone can be hard to convey correctly sometimes, but it seems like an oxymoron to say dont read into tone that isnt there when you have no way to know what the tone is supposed to be aside from what you can grasp by the words the sender used. But people tend to not like such things. For example, assume there is a question about how satisfied you are with your current car. I agreed upthread, but since people were disagreeing here, I wanted to +1 the passive-aggressive vibe. Ive used just bumping this to the top of your inbox! before, but only with people who I know are pretty chill and arent going to interpret it as you clearly dont know how to manage your workload so please let me nag you. Shes lovely, but I dont like the phrase. Or, I schedule a 15 minute call with a conference line and ask them to phone in. me: yes I moved from big city to mid-Michigan and West Michigan though. This is the kind of comparison Im thinking of. The phrase that drives me right up the wall is please do the needful. Me: Heres a selection of potential images for the brochure. I had a calculus teacher who said a combination of the words so um ok yeah every few sentences. ;). Let me know if I can be of any help. I gave it another try, coming at it from another angle. Not a fan. Words only mean things in their contexts, though. Here you can set your new address email. I delete it from their email before responding. I think please advise is okay when youre asking a question going up the ladder, but coming from a manager to a subordinate it does usually come off as, please advise WTF you were thinking when you did this., Yeah, since someone above you is unlikely to actually want anything that could be called advice from you haha. I am going tell my spouse this before bed tonight and see how he interprets it. Some appreciate it so they dont have to take 30 minutes to craft a reply to me. LOL. If its just an FYI, and theres no action, I dont put that, or any other question. update: how can I turn down training requests from my clients? Privacy Policy and Affiliate Disclosures. })(window, document);Cookie Policy(function (w, d) { A complete search of the internet has found these results: Please let me know which one you preferis the most popular phrase on the web. ", This a great. the people who are secretly working multiple full-time jobs from home, future manager is a bigoted jerk, boss hasnt paid me back, and more, weekend open thread February 18-19, 2023. My bosss boss would end certain emails to me with that phrase. Mar 31, 2012 5:50 AM. Thats the way I use it too. tag.parentNode.insertBefore(s, tag); Man, I cant stand when people use please advise but it is a lot more tolerable if they clearly state in the message specifically what action they want me to take. I was shocked. Just no. On the scale of things that bother me about emails, this is way, way down the list (and honestly I hadnt even given it specific thought until I saw this post), but I dont really like it. I also tend to work in industries where if someone wants to make it known that they are upset, they will be a lot more blatent about it than saying Please advise.. Am I being overly sensitive? Thats a GREAT post, and the comments under it are even better. Its sort of a crowd control thing. Thank you in advance! Please advise. (if you wanted instant notification you could have sent it yourself!) Now his bosses, they hated it. From the Cambridge English Corpus His preferred option is theory of mind ability, which underpins processes of cultural learning and cultural accumulation and transmission. For some reason, it gets the point across to her that we need certain information now, not later or not ever, *the time between Lucy pulling the football away as he tries to kick it and before he hits the ground knowing that she DID IT AGAIN. Thanks a lot for editors. The only times it does, its not because of the phrase, its because of the person using the phrase. I generally think thats a fair assessment by the writer, so maybe thats why it rarely annoys me. Try these: Yes, Wednesday suits me fine? This additional time is also helpful when you have more interviews scheduled with companies that interest you. I usually say please advise when I am not sure what question I am asking. Possibly in red Killer font. I dot: Thoughts? for that. For some reason, were constantly begging our lawyer to (pretty) please (and only should the stars align to create no personal inconvenience to him) advise (on this legal matter with respect to which were paying him a hefty fee). (I am a webmaster for many sites at my University, and a lot of times people from a department want me to do something to their site that is in conflict with ADA compliance/branding initiative/common sense, so if they dont take no for an answer when I explain why we cant do it that way, I bring in another person of influence, like my boss or someone in charge of university-level site compliance, or the persons own department chair, etc., and then explain the request, the problem with the request, and explain that Im trying to resolve the matter. I use cheers too, but its OK because Im British :). That does happen to me on occasion. Could this be confirmed either way to help my order progress please? It was at that point I realised, it is not my explaining that is the problem here. You are incredibly annoying and childish. Want to improve your English business writing? Before she became manager, wed had a jail escapee steal one of the staff cars. + Read the full interview, Zubair Alam Chowdhury, Technical Support Specialist, TextRanch has helped me to improve my written skills as well as to communicate more naturally, like a local English speaker. We have x cost on the system. Or you are a better person to address the situation based on your experience/skills/expertise? It feels like a power play. 0. Is the writer at a higher level than you in the company? I tend to err on the side of not reading snideness into emails unless its either really egregious or I have reason to believe that the person is actually trying to be snide. portraitsbystanda.com. Please let me know what to do.. Like better But Americans are more likely to use the phrase "likebetter" when talking. Another is when I get an email that contains only call me. I recieve emails like shipping updates a lot of the time and Ive defaulted to saying Thanks! because I dont know what else to say, even though theres not really anything Im thanking them for. Ive noticed that yeah, we dont say Sincerely anymore, but I feel really strange just writing my name at the bottom of a reply (and yes we have those auto signatures, but everything gets shoved down to the bottom of the chain, so you only see them properly the first time). They have bolded passages, underlined passages, bolded AND underlined passages, and lines in all caps. I think youre too stupid to realize that Ive asked you a question and I want an answer. Sometimes Id be copied in as a courtesy, other times someone was expecting an answer from me, and sometimes I was supposed to understand that I should NOT reply even if I knew the answer (because of the political implications of the message, the people on the email chain, etc.). Im rapidly coming to that conclusion as well. It is now on your side of the line. As far as I know , we use "prefer" to express our preferences in general and we use "would prefer" in special occasions. One of their common email closings was, Please advise of the needful. Our admin has been sending these long, complicated emails. }; He wasnt wrong. Friendly reminder is bad too. I advise that the order is held and you request an investigation. 3 months ago. They make my head hurt and I can hardly get through reading them! assigning women extra work to help them, calling out when youre in the ER, and more. Are these people abusing the cc feature? I also feel it may have something to do with the nature of the relationship you have with the sender it drove me up the wall to receive an email with please advise in it. Get it corrected in a few minutes by our editors. versus No need to be weirdly deferential. Love the feedback from the editor. Same goes for meeting invites received out of the blue with no brief description at all. Although I usually prefer let me know what you think since I know please advice grates on some people. In my mind, an employee who just comes to me and says please advise is taking the easy way out and making my job harder at the same time. But that is definitely a personal preference issue. Battle #1: people who reply all to large groups with Please remove me from this email list as a manager, should I not wear a childless shirt in my off-hours? is not business-like as you said. Have you booked that hotel I only asked you about on the phone 30 seconds ago? Request you to note the dates and let us know the way forward. What/how about Monday for lunch? I have people in India who do this a lot too, but I grit my teeth and move on. It seems ok to me, and I havent seen it on anyones Grrr list ever. Ie, if youre reading along and you encounter a word you dont understand, you drop everything and look it up, right then and there. Please advise. If you have met with the hiring manager and feel good about the role and your candidacy, and you prefer one company over the other, the reach out to the hiring manager immediately. I guess Im being petty at this point but I think there are so many better ways to communicate with people. It openly pisses people off. Being English, I wish we would adopt wee because it is such a warm word. should I be so emotionally drained by managing? He told me it was standard while he was in the military. This gives me more confidence that the context will be correct, which is hard to trust with auto-correction apps", A real person editor is much2 better than a software editor. Thats probably my own bias, though. Its used in the absence of a question, so the reader doesnt take it like an Fyi but actually acts on it. So, yeah, for that the please advise would be super annoying. Nothing is worse than the evil Thanks in advance. To me it reads That was not a request! (Or, they just dont know better.). Payment will be expected in 48hours, if you wish to cancel your purchase, please let me know in this timeframe. But not only would I be ok implying that Im telling my boss what to do, but I do that regularly. persons IM: Can you talk? There are many things to get upset about, but this doesnt strike me as a hill worth dieing on. I use something similar. Hello Dears. This cracks me up, just like TY. I picked up the doubt thing from a really awesome math professor I had in college who would ask does anyone have any doubts? after going over something on the board. Kinda reminds me of getting a message from the Dean of Students, Please report to my office at your earliest convenience, without fail, I use quick reminder. 8. And I never, ever, raised an issue or sent an email to that manager again. I dont mean to be condescending or snarky at all, I thought I was being deferentially polite. Who cares if someone writes please advise, I honestly doubt they are including it to annoy you. Often I see please advise on an I just described a hilariously tangled or annoying situation email and it generally translates to I dont even know. Same here. PizzaSquared * April 13, 2015 at 3:15 pm. Sometimes Ive had people reply with Do I need to know more? or Is there more? and then we can have a conversation about that, rather than me give them a long monologue without checking in with them first to make sure they want to know more. if (w.addEventListener) { }; Im in grad school now and definitely retain the as brief as possible email ethos which some of my fellow students really do not, and I wonder if it comes off as abrupt (and Ive always been on the more prolix side of email writing, too!). Would prefer a steel guide rod. Its shorthand for I acknowledge that Im asking a lot of you, and I am really grateful that you are doing this especially since Im not paying you and its probably a big inconvenience. Lot too, but its ok because Im British: ) used just bumping this to top. 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